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PostSubject: Test lista   Wed Dec 25, 2013 2:36 pm

Ajmo neki komentari oko liste: zanima me što mi nedostaje, ima previše...

Unnamed2400 Pts - High Elves Army

1 * Prince @ 246.0 Pts
General; Great Weapon
Talisman of Preservation [45.0]
Armour of Silvered Steel [45.0]
Biting Blade [10.0]

1 Noble @ 149.0 Pts
Great Weapon; Battle Standard
Armour of Caledor [50.0]

1 Noble @ 121.0 Pts
Heavy Armour; Shield
Crown of Command [35.0]
Dragonhelm [10.0]

30 Swordmasters of Hoeth @ 483.0 Pts
Great Weapon; Heavy Armour; Standard; Musician
Banner of the World Dragon [50.0]

1 Bladelord @ [10.0] Pts
Great Weapon; Heavy Armour

1 Eagle Claw Bolt Thrower @ 70.0 Pts

2 Sea Guard Crew @ [0.0] Pts
Light Armour

1 Eagle Claw Bolt Thrower @ 70.0 Pts

2 Sea Guard Crew @ [0.0] Pts
Light Armour

30 Archers @ 330.0 Pts
Longbow; Musician

1 Hawkeye @ [10.0] Pts

30 Archers @ 330.0 Pts
Longbow; Musician

1 Hawkeye @ [10.0] Pts

4 Silver Helms @ 145.0 Pts
Lance; Heavy Armour; Shield; Standard; Musician; Ithilmar Barding

1 High Helm @ [10.0] Pts

5 Elf Steed @ [0.0] Pts

4 Silver Helms @ 145.0 Pts
Lance; Heavy Armour; Shield; Standard; Musician; Ithilmar Barding

1 High Helm @ [10.0] Pts

5 Elf Steed @ [0.0] Pts

10 Spearmen @ 90.0 Pts
Spear; Light Armour; Shield

1 Archmage @ 220.0 Pts
Magic Level 4; Lore of Heaven; Miscast Table
#0: Iceshard Blizzard [0.0]
#1: Harmonic Convergence [0.0]
#2: Wind Blast [0.0]
#3: Curse of Midnight Wind [0.0]
#4: Urannon's Thunderbolt [0.0]
#5: Comet of Casandora [0.0]
#6: Chain Lightning [0.0]

Models in Army: 119


Total Army Cost: 2399.0

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PostSubject: Re: Test lista   Wed Dec 25, 2013 2:39 pm

koje liste? Surprised
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PostSubject: Re: Test lista   Wed Dec 25, 2013 2:40 pm

Pa što misliš da sada radim... (ne ide mi umetanje HTMLa...)

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PostSubject: Re: Test lista   Wed Dec 25, 2013 3:11 pm

1. Gdje su white lioni?
2. Koja je poanta onih 10 spearmena?
3. Gdje se nalaze characteri?
4. Zašto 2x5 Silver helmova?
5. Lore of Heaves?

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PostSubject: Re: Test lista   Wed Dec 25, 2013 3:38 pm

cek nije mi jasno, a gdje su tu u listi dwarfovi?
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PostSubject: Re: Test lista   Wed Dec 25, 2013 3:44 pm

Ne smiješ stavljati broj bodova za pojedinačne iteme, ni točan broj bodova za charactere ili single model unit koji nema upgrade-ova. Tj. ako npr. imaš heroja sa hrpom itema smiješ staviti ukupnu konačnu cijenu....ali ne njegovu cijenu bez ičega (osnovnu), niti cijenu pojedinih stvari.

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PostSubject: Re: Test lista   Wed Dec 25, 2013 3:49 pm

also, nisam siguran al mislim da je swordmaster unit po broju bodova ilegalan

ako se gleda ETC jel, iako ne znam ako ima kakvih promjena, nisam pratio
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PostSubject: Re: Test lista   Wed Dec 25, 2013 3:52 pm

Indeed, limit je 450 bodova.

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PostSubject: Re: Test lista   Wed Dec 25, 2013 3:55 pm

Linkajte čovjeku nova ETC pravila najbolje.

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PostSubject: Re: Test lista   Wed Dec 25, 2013 4:10 pm

http://warhammer.org.uk/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=119292

Općenito:
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1. Rules changes:
• Characters will get "look out sir" versus the following spells that automatically kill models or automatically remove an entire regiment: Dwellers Below, Final Transmutation, Dreaded 13th. Normal requirements for lookout sir apply.
• All BSBs can take all the equipment, their unit type has access to as if they weren't BSBs. Wood elf BSB can take kindreds and do not lose their longbow.

2. Army building restrictions
General Restrictions:
• All the Army building restrictions are applied during the creation of the roster - limits may be ignored during the game (for example - by joining characters to the unit to increase its point costs, creating new units, or resurrecting fallen warriors)
• The armies allowed are those from any of the currently published GW Army books and Chaos Dwarves' The Legion of Azgorh from Tamurkhan: The Throne of Chaos. Any other Forge World based army lists or units may not be used on the event.
• Special or Named Characters are not allowed
• Folding Fortress is not allowed
• Units cannot be more than 60 models nor 450 points (including all command, upgrades, magic items/banners). This restriction does not apply to characters.

Magic Restrictions:
• An army may use up to maximum 12 power dice during each magic phase
• A player can never use more than 5 power dice to cast a spell, no matter the source. For the Lore of Death and Shadow, this is lowered to 4 power dice.
• Apart from Winds of Magic, an army may only generate 2 Power or Dispel Dice per magic phase. After an army generates the limit all the other extra dice are discarded and lost. This includes channeled dice.

High Elves:
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• Book of Hoeth/Banner of the World Dragon/Archmage with Lore of Death/2nd Frostheart Phoenix, max 1
• Star Dragon/2nd Frostheart Phoenix, max 1
• Models armed with shooting weapons (Eagle Claw Bolt Throwers count as 6 each), max 70
• Ellyrian Reaver units/1st Eagle unit/Eagle Claw Bolt Thrower, max 6

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PostSubject: Re: Test lista   Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:18 pm

dakle swordmastere mijenjas u white lione. oni spearmeni ne sluze nicemu pa idu van. imas previse karaktera, premalo unita koji rade nesto. izbaci princa, ostavi 2 nobla, dodaj jos jednog lvl 1 maga. archmage nek ti ima high lore. ne treba ti 60 archera, dovoljno je 30, povecaj silver helmove na 12ak u jednom unitu, 2 unita po 5 ne rade nista. HE udara iz 3 ranka, iskoristi to.

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PostSubject: Re: Test lista   Thu Dec 26, 2013 11:44 pm

Eto da ponudim i ja viđenje jednog lošeg HE igrača. Swordmasteri su ti goli klinac. Svako ih razbuca prije nego vide combata. Ali ja sam ih igrao i forsirao jel su mi modeli bili jako lijepi, jednostavno ih se nisam imao srca odreći.

Ja bi ostavio princa ali bi izbacio nobla, bolje 2 magičara imati iako ja sa HE nisam magijom nikad čuda radio (obrati pozornost na prvu rečenicu molim).

Strijelce mos ostaviti ako ti se svidjaju i jednostavno su ti fun fun, al ne treba ti njihov heroj ovo ono...dosta ti je glazbenik da mozes raditi quick reform.

Bolt ko bolt jede velike beštije, a uz malo srece moze i unitima nanijeti nesreče za 2 zivota.

Iako najbolji savjet koji sam ja ikada dobio je "igraj ono što ti se sviđa" što je u mom slučaju značilo uglavnom loss al jebga, ja igram da se zabavim a ako i pobjedim diš bolje.

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PostSubject: Re: Test lista   Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:04 pm

Evo ja sam složio jednu listu kao primjer kako bi ja to napravio (kad bi radio, ali ja to ne radim).

DISCLAIMER: U životu nisam igrao sa High Elfovima.

1 Prince @ 255.0 Pts
General; Shield; Star Lance; Armour of Fortune; Potion of Toughness; Elf Steed: Barded

1 Noble @ 163.0 Pts
Lance; Dragon Armour; Shield; Battle Standard; War Banner; Elf Steed: Barded

1 Mage @ 135.0 Pts
Magic Level 1; Lore of Beasts; Dispel Scroll; Ironcurse Icon; Tormentor Sword; Elf Steed: Barded

14 Silver Helms @ 375.0 Pts
Lance; Heavy Armour; Shield; Standard; Musician; Ithilmar Barding; 1 High Helm ; 15 Elf Steed

29 White Lions of Chrace @ 447.0 Pts
Great Weapon; Heavy Armour; Lion Cloak; Standard; Musician; Banner of the World Dragon

1 Archmage @ 265.0 Pts
Magic Level 4; Lore of High Magic; Talisman of Preservation

10 Archers @ 110.0 Pts
Longbow; Musician

10 Archers @ 110.0 Pts
Longbow; Musician

5 Ellyrian Reavers @ 115.0 Pts
Spear; Normal Bow; Light Armour; Standard; Musician; 5 Elf Steed

5 Ellyrian Reavers @ 115.0 Pts
Spear; Normal Bow; Light Armour; Standard; Musician; 5 Elf Steed

1 Eagle Claw Bolt Thrower @ 70.0 Pts
2 Sea Guard Crew; Light Armour

1 Frostheart Phoenix @ 240.0 Pts

Models in Army: 80
Total Army Cost: 2400.0

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PostSubject: Re: Test lista   Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:39 pm

to je lista koju ja inace igram:P

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PostSubject: Re: Test lista   Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:40 pm

meni se uvijek cinilo kao vise od 80 modela Surprised

valjd zato sto bude vise unita.. sta je sa orlovima? vise nisu korisni?
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PostSubject: Re: Test lista   Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:02 pm

Ok, ovo je bilo ionako samo za ovu subotu ako Janoš ne bude igrao sa vilenjacima.
U svakom slučaju sam dovoljno naučio o High Elven slabostima i prednostima (još kad bi netko i igrao s njima... Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Test lista   Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:25 pm

Za subotu:

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1 Prince @ 250.0 Pts
General; Shield
Armour of Destiny [50.0]
Star Lance [30.0]

1 Elf Steed: Barded @ [0.0] Pts

1 Noble @ 149.0 Pts
Great Weapon; Battle Standard
Armour of Caledor [50.0]

29 White Lions of Chrace @ 470.0 Pts
Great Weapon; Heavy Armour; Lion Cloak; Standard; Musician
Banner of the World Dragon [50.0]

1 Guardian @ [10.0] Pts
Great Weapon; Heavy Armour; Lion Cloak

1 Frostheart Phoenix @ 240.0 Pts

1 Eagle Claw Bolt Thrower @ 70.0 Pts

2 Sea Guard Crew @ [0.0] Pts
Light Armour

1 Eagle Claw Bolt Thrower @ 70.0 Pts

2 Sea Guard Crew @ [0.0] Pts
Light Armour

5 Ellyrian Reavers @ 95.0 Pts
Bow (swap); Light Armour; Musician

5 Elf Steed @ [0.0] Pts

11 Archers @ 120.0 Pts
Longbow; Musician

10 Archers @ 110.0 Pts
Longbow; Musician

17 Silver Helms @ 444.0 Pts
Lance; Heavy Armour; Shield; Standard; Musician; Ithilmar Barding

1 High Helm @ [10.0] Pts

18 Elf Steed @ [0.0] Pts

1 Mage @ 115.0 Pts
Magic Level 1; Lore of Beasts
Dispel Scroll [25.0]
Ironcurse Icon [5.0]
#0: Wyronn's Wildform [0.0]
#1: The Flock of Doom [0.0]
#2: Pan's Impenetrable Pelt [0.0]
#3: Amber Spear [0.0]
#4: Curse of Anraheir [0.0]
#5: Savage Beasts of Horros [0.0]
#6: Transformation of Kadon [0.0]

1 Archmage @ 265.0 Pts
Magic Level 4; Lore of High Magic
#HeA - Shield of Saphery [0.0]
#HeS1 - Drain Magic [0.0]
#HeS2 - Soul Quench [0.0]
#He1 - Apotehosis [0.0]
#He2 - Hand of Glory [0.0]
#He3 - Walk Between Worlds [0.0]
#He4 - Tempest [0.0]
#He5 - Arcane Unforging [0.0]
#He6 - Fiery Convocation [0.0]
Talisman of Preservation [45.0]

Models in Army: 81


Total Army Cost: 2398.0

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